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Hopefully after a nap:


OK, to reiterate:

1) Bigots are dangerous. When allowed to talk free, they make other bigots bolder. To the point where they are dangerous to people they are bigoted towards.

3) Attitudes are dangerous because they provide justification for action later on.

3) This is not a "OMG HYPERBOLE" screed. Why the fuck do we fight sexist, racist language if it didn't lead to sexist, racist actions?

4) When such bigotry is announced present in particular people, they make folks to whom the bigotry is aimed at feel unsafe. When they feel unsafe, and thus unwelcome, they don't feel free to join the party and speak their mind.

5) We are left with bigots talking free and people who shouldn't be scared too scared to talk.


1) E Moon is a bigot towards Muslims.

2) Muslims already have a lot of bigotry in their daily lives.

3) E Moon's presence will exacerbate any lack of safety they already feel.

4) At a convention meant to be as inclusive and welcoming, to traditionally marginalized peoples, no less.

And sooo... the best way to handle this is to honour E Moon.

IDE, ya'll. IDE. The solution is so fucking self-evident that it boggles to even discuss this. It boggles that the WisCon concom thinks that having more panels and stuff will outweigh EMoon's presence. It boggles, because yes, this is great, having panels on Islam and Muslims! We really need to hear their voices!

Except, with E Moon there, how many people do you think will willingly sign up for these panels, knowing there's someone there who thinks they're not worthy of being part of the social fabric? And since birds of a fucking feather flock together, how can Muslims trust that non-Muslims aren't bigots?

Not to mention, we SHOULD be having such panels ANYWAY, whether E Moon is being honoured or not. And we don't NEED E Moon there to "start a dialogue". Why should Muslims even have to start a dialog with someone who thinks they don't count? And with E Moon there, how many Muslims are going to feel safe attending, feel safe contributing their valuable voices?

Because WisCon is still honouring E Moon, and so these panels, which should be awesome and fun and shiny, feel like a sop to the angry masses.


To be honest I didn't even really register that E Moon was GoH. I knew Nisi was, and E Moon was easily disregarded as "someone who ought to be neat since she's WisCon's GoH" but obviously not as important. So I'm gonna say, I'm still going to go to WisCon (assuming I can get the monies) and when I get there, I am going to have a damned fine time mingling with Internetz people who have beautiful brilliant minds, and I am walking out when E Moon gives her GoH speech.

But of course.... I can afford to do so. E Moon's not hating on me. And I got a bucketload of outrage that there's a whole group of people who can't.

hotcoffeems has a great response here.


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Sep. 22nd, 2010 11:11 pm (UTC)

It just sounds SO intellectually dishonest to say they want to encourage dialogue and allow a bigot walk free, knowing that the mere presence of bigots is silencing to those who really need to be heard.
Sep. 22nd, 2010 11:19 pm (UTC)
This. *sigh*
Sep. 23rd, 2010 01:15 am (UTC)
Wow, I didn't realize she was Guest of Honor. I would have thought they'd at least downgrade her to Guest or something.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 01:51 am (UTC)
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